
I am sorry commander, but “They see me rollin’, they hatin” IS grammatically incorrect.
(Brent Spiner, Michael Dorn and Jonathan Frakes)
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…had to be said.
It’s truely true
Hahahaha made me LOL hard!
No it isn’t. ;P
- A linguist
The first part is okay. “They hatin’” is wrong though. There’s no helping verb to join the present participle with the rest of the “clause.”
THANK YOU. That bothered me as well.
No, that part is okay too. It’s called copula deletion, and it’s common in African American Vernacular English.
Just because it’s common vernacular doesn’t mean that it’s grammatically correct according to the rules of the English language.
– a better linguist, apparently
African American Vernacular English has its own rules which are different from those of “standard English” and are perfectly acceptable as part of the dialect.
But I don’t have the time to teach a Linguistics class here.
If AAVE were a true dialect, you would be correct. But it’s not. So you’re wrong.
I don’t need you to teach a linguistics class, since you clearly don’t know the difference between “dialect” and “slang.” Not to mention the fact that “linguistics” doesn’t need to be capitalized.
A what exactly makes it not a true dialect?
And* that is, got ahead of myself.
Also, it isn’t slang. “Slang” is nonstandard vocabulary. AAVE has grammatical rules that are different from those of standard English.
Yes, rules. They are there for a reason; they are not completely random. For example, they don’t “replace ‘is/are/am’ with ‘be’” like so many people think. Their use of ‘be’ is a completely different tense, the habitual tense (example: “she be at the store” means “she is frequently at the store”), which we don’t have in standard English.
I have my degree in Linguistics, and I have studied this topic extensively. I really don’t think you know what you’re talking about.
I was just coming in here to say that I got ahead of myself and made myself look like an ass. You are right on it being a dialect. I am sleep-deprived. I still respectfully disagree with you on your original statement. Even though it is “acceptable” within the bounds of the dialect, it is still not grammatically correct within the English language as a whole.
Thank you. And yeah, you might not want to write a formal academic essay in AAVE…
I didn’t mean YOU personally, I meant, a person who was writing a formal academic essay shouldn’t write it in AAVE. I was agreeing with you.
Humour FAIL!
But see.. you need to be careful what you say.
“…it is still not grammatically correct within the English language as a whole.”
AAVE being a dialect, the caption is grammatically correct. However, in a context of an article in some really specific peer-reviewed science journal, then it would be incorrect, because in Standard English is expected.
Also, the English language contains a few dialects. Your logic would also say that Irish dialects are grammatically incorrect by using object pronouns as possessives, “The Blarny Stone brings a tear to me eye”.
Don’t know a thing about linguistics or the rules therein, but I can say that this is wrong. I can tell you, fron 16 years working with gang youth, that “she be at the store’ would most certainly mean ‘she is at the store’. They absolutely do replace is/are/am with be, constantly. ‘I be getting sick of you’ = I am getting sick of you. ‘you be getting on my nerves’ = You are getting on my nerves. ‘she be bangin hot’ = she is very pretty. etc. ad infinum
Oh be quiet.
WHO CARES
I know. I’ve never heard such talk for something that can be described so easily: L-A-Z-Y
Trust me, I’m about as anti-PC as they come. This is about facts.
inb4 ‘constantly-evolving language.’
I guess I just don’t like the fact that when I was young I was always corrected when I talked like that. Now people can get away with it as good grammar. Over the centuries English, and now at an accelerated rate American English, have just gotten lazier. From what I learned in the language classes I took, we enunciate very little compared to most other languages in the world. I’d just like to hold on to as much “proper” speech as I can.
It’s called “code switching”, and if you walk into a job interview speaking like that, you will surely not get the job. But, if you have friends, talk how you will. There’s a time and place for everything. And really, everyone does it to an extent. You don’t talk to your grandmother the same way you talk to your best friend, and if you say you do, you’re lying.
“From what I learned in the language classes I took, we enunciate very little compared to most other languages in the world.”
Well…also not true.
Captain! We’re bein’ attacked by the grammar nazis, the engines are failin’, I can’t hold ‘em much longer!
Grammar nazis aren’t just nazis about grammar.
Nice to see some people still prefer to rely on their own preconceived notions and prejudices rather than listen to facts.
Keep on fighting the good fight, my man.
Worst. Linguist. Ever.
Wait, didn’t you just agree with me in all your posts?
I’m confused.
They all just tryin’ to catch me flyin’ dirty
“to boldly go where no man has gone before” is also grammatically incorrect
the rules against splitting infinitives is hazy at best–there is much disagreement on its authenticity and historicity, much less its useful contribution to communication.
Would you mind helping a foreigner here: What is wrong about it exactly?
There is nothing wrong with splitting an infinitive. It’s an urban myth that it’s wrong to do so in English.
(Or should I say, ‘so to do in English’?)
The only reason that it’s supposedly incorrect to split infinitives is that the romance languages don’t do it, and therefore some brainiac decided that we shouldn’t either. But that brainiac neglected to notice that the romance languages don’t have two-word infinitives like we do in English. There’s nothing wrong with putting a word between two other words. If I wanted to, I could say, “To boldly, swiftly, and exceedingly awesomely go…” and that would technically be correct.
haHAAAhaHAAAA!!!! I gaffah in your general direction!
(guffaw)
Aww, sweet! It looks like we’re in for a string of Star Trek pics!
(Pulls out klingon hat and hand made cardboard batleth and bag of cheedos.)
“I am sorry commander[...]” should be “I am sorry, Commander,[...]” if we’re being picky about the rules of grammar…
Riker – Data, get laid, that’s an order
But Data HAS gotten laid.
Just not as many times as Riker.
Has he since Tasha Yar died?
It’s kind of implied he got it on with the Borg Queen in “First Contact.”
Which would suggest he’s slept with more females than Ryker, even if on fewer total occasions.
Data – Get laid… Ah, to have a sexual relationship, an intercourse, to be intimate, to make love, to couple, to mate…
After all, he is functional and programmed in multiple techniques. He is one horny android!
*fully* functional.
oh dear, what have i started?
They see me rolling, they are hating.
Intriguing… Inquiry: Commander, assuming that the phrase you just pronounced was in fact synonymous to “Whilst they are seeing me rolling, they are hating it.”, what did you mean by “rolling”?
(I’m French, please don’t flame me if something is grammatically incorrect in here)
Excellent! I like this one much better than mine
Actually to further complete the scene you can also add:
Troi- I… sense a great amount of hate!
Worf- Klingons do NOT roll!
That’s okay, Data is from France too. He said so in an episode regarding the holodeck.
Yes, but it turns out he’s from South America.
I think you need a semicolon instead of a comma in the absence of a conjunction to join your independent clauses.
Epic win.
Actually, Data’s from a Federation colony that was destroyed by some kind of crystalline entity, after which he was found and reassembled by the crew of the U.S.S. Tripoli.
The planet was called Omicron Theta….
source: Memory Alpha, the Star Trek Wiki
LOLZ, awesome
To me, the humor is not in the grammar lesson by Data. It is the implied action immediately preceding what we see here. It amused me to think of Riker sitting in the command chair of the flagship of Starfleet and singing such a silly song from the 21st century like They see me rollin’, they hatin’. The look on his face seems to be irritation at being corrected.
That is what gave me the Lulz as well.
Oh stewardess, I speak jive
WIN
Does it matter? Anyone with an education, or a library card, knows that “ebonics” is the slaughtering of a language.
This should be discouraged, not encouraged.
Chump don’ want no help, chump don’t GET da’ help!
d00d wtf wat i wana no is when l33t sp3@k wil b a excepted lang lol
stop fightin n00bs n gtfo the interwebz if u cant take a joke from a silly pic
wait i thought they were saying the black kligon dude looks like chamilonair.?
Chamillionaire FTW!
f’shizzle?
I want to roll with the gangstas
But they see I’m too white and nerdy