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“The ocean will take care the oil on its own. It’s natural. It’s as natural as the ocean water is.’ – Rush Limbaugh
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Don’t listen to him, guys. Everyone knows he’s full of it.
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Un….
Fathomably…..
Believable!!!!!!
Why don’t they use that overmedicated tub of Hubris to plug the leak????
Oh, I forgot – he is even more toxic than the oil spill!!!!!
Kaching! FTW!!! And sadly, true…
I say we shove his arse in the hole right now!
CHOCOLATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OIL? DO WANT!
Um… I don’t get it. Oil actually is as natural as water. And it really does naturally disperse in water. I think this caption belongs on failblog.
Agreed. The same amount of oil that BP leaks every day is leaked into the gulf by NATURAL seepage from the ocean floor, just far less concentrated. What Rush was saying, is that the ocean is capable of NATURALLY breaking down and dispersing the oil, which it is.
:O
And how is this relevant to people alive in this century?
Here’s the relevance:
In the last 40 years, the *published* total of all oil spills is 1,942,670,596 gallons. Almost 2 BILLION gallons – that’s 2 cubic millimeters of oil for every square foot of ocean surface on the planet.
Do you know what happens when you put oil on water?
It slows or stops evaporation, and interrupts the water cycle.
And the result?
Drought!
Increased California wildfires. Water shortages from L.A. to Orlando. Great lakes water levels dropping. Dust storms in Australia and China. Failed monsoons in south Asia. The Sahara desert expanding. Drought and famine in Africa.
Look around, people. The biggest climate change is water shortage, and we did it with oil.
You fu…
The question was how is the fact that eventually, over who knows how many centuries an oil leak visible from space will dissipate naturally relevant to us, not the fact of the oil leak itself.
So the oil isn’t a big deal because the ocean will break it up? That’s a load of crap.
Well, speaking as a geologist, you’re flat wrong. The biota in the ocean are quite capable of consuming hydrocarbons. Sunlight and waves break down oil at the surface. And the actual amount of oil is trivial compared to the volume of the Gulf of Mexico.
That said, the well still needs to be closed off.
Of course what’s unsaid is we wouldn’t need to have been drilling all the way out there if environmentalists hadn’t shut down on shore and shallow water drilling. You know, the drilling that’s easy to contain when accidents happen.
So yeah, Rush is right. Greenpeace et al are wrong. Deal.
If Rush was right, a black hole would open up swallowing the earth whole, so no that hasn’t happened yet. I find it hard to believe anyone is stupid enough to believe that the damage being done is irrelevant, but I’m guessing that’s the liberal media making the whole thing up? Oil covered animals are just birds dipped in chocolate sauce?
Uh…he didnt say it was irrelevant, he just said the ocean would break it up. o.O
Environmental disasters are the environmentalist’s fault! And not making bosses pay a reasonable wage will make them treat their workers better! And telling people they can be taken care of at home if they have a terminal illness means Obama’s gonna kill granny!
Right, because there’s *always* that much oil washing up on the beaches along with that many dead animals covered in oil. **Obviously** nature cannot take care of the BP spill at the same rate that it takes care of natural seepage, or neither of the phenomena I mentioned would be occurring. Reality check time, guys.
Here we see the wild FOX NEWS viewer attempting to have rational discourse. Lets watch, shall we?
LOLOL!!!
Yup yup. I was listening to Rush when he said this. He said that despite the natural ability for nature to take care of oil, its still important to clean it up. But people just hate Rush, and don’t listen and take Rush out of context… He also says that its not reasonable to get people freaking out about the oil spill lasting forever. Valdez oil isn’t on the shores anymore.
No, it’s not. But numerous aspects of the environment that were affected by the spill STILL have not returned to what they used to be. Some of those aspects were almost completely destroyed. It’s not just about whether you can still see oil, or even find it under beach rocks, as is still true in Alaska.
oh god, don’t try to use reason with him! He admitted that he listens to Limbaugh – that right there is the clue that it’s useless to try logic.
Funny i have never meet a lefty that actually uses logic…
Then how about quoting the useless tool using his own words from his tape “the way things ought to be”…
He says “I am an ENTERTAINER”
Got it???
The more outrageous his diatribe, the more listeners he gets, ergo, the bigger the ENTERTAINER he becomes.
He is NOT a poltical analyst……
He is NOT basing his views on logic and data….
He is a radio pole dancer who achieves success (?) by bending to new and ever more repulsive lows.
(PS- I’m as conservative as it gets, but I don’t let others do my thinking for me. Logic isn’t exclusive to any ideology)
Perhaps you should listen to him for a few weeks before being so laugh-out-loud wrong.
Thanks for the chuckle.
Now, if you want to talk incompetence and ineptitude lets discuss Lord Obama and his czars.
So Chad actually believes the horse crap that a pundit spews. Grow a brain, fvckwit.
Ah, the “I know you are but what am I” argument. That’s real logical there, bud.
There’s the context I figured was out there somewhere.
Rush Limbaugh is the best argument AGAINST free speech.
That silly fat bastard has no clue what’s happening, and yet naive people believe him just because he’s on TV.
Um, no… He’s on the radio. At least most of the time.
Identification Fail.
Still retarded.
The amount of oil that went into the drink in the Valdez incident is pouring out of BP’s hole every 4 days or so. It is f#$%ing necessary to freak out.
Valdez oil was cleaned up, by humans…..
How can you – or anyone else – be so stupid as to believe Prince William Sound was “cleaned up”?
Your stupidity has reached new highs in LOW.
There are still hundreds of tons of crude oil on the surface and in the ground – equivalent to an estimated 6 miles of heavily contaminated shoreline.
Hey D.F.! You missed a spot!
You say that like anything he says actually means anything.
Now it’s not on the shores- it’s about 1 foot underneath, and if any hapless burrower or digging critter goes that deep, they’re in trouble.
Yeah, the only only shows up there when you take a step in the sand…and your bootprint is all rainbow-shiny.
What Rush was saying was “I am a fat druggie that wants money from oil companies! GIMMIE DRUGS”
Tom, you are an idiot. Oil kills all sorts of living creatures “naturally” in the water and only “Dissipates” due to outside forces liek wind and tide, not into the water itself, killing more creatures as it spills. I would like to coat your family ion oil and see how long it takes them to die, you worthless fat druggie, like your fat druggie idol, Rush Fatbaugh
Astounding argumentative skills. Where did you acquire such a mastery of the art? I stand in awe of your wit and intellect.
it’s sad
they should actually make a spongebob episode about that.
Actually, no. It would freak out all the young kids out there. They would be scared to go into the ocean again…Anyways Spongebob isn’y supposed to be real, and all the parents would be mad at the director for shoving all that at their kids, too.
Think of spongebob. think of gary and patrick.
Great, politics. This will be fun.
side note: Patrick and Spongebob’s face are the perfect D:
The oil is gonna have to absorb it naturally, considering Obama seems more interested in golfing than…y’know, doing anything about it.
Yeah, Obama should do something about it, clearly he has the capabilities and knowledge to do something about it.
BP shouldn’t have to though, it’s not like it’s their fault or the deregulation that allowed this method, it’s clearly Obamas fault, he is, after all, GOD!
Prove that deregulation allowed this to happen. Every time something bad happens liberals always squeal “deregulation allowed this to happen!” but you never seem to back it up.
Not necessarily deregulation, but certainly a lack of regulation. Even others in the oil industry admit that the well structure was deficient in several areas, along with improper maintenance and incomplete testing. Proper regulation could very well have prevented this.
Why is anybody dragging Obama into this mess?
He didn’t spill the oil.
The government didn’t spill the oil.
They should only come under fire if they allow more deep-water drilling.
Simple; The moment Obama claimed that his administration was on top of things.
Check website link for source.
What exactly is Obama supposed to do? Honestly? Everyone blames Obama for not doing anything, but what exactly is he supposed to do?
The same thing President Bush was supposed to do during Katrina. Make it go away!!! By magic I presume. Oil is not manmade and therefore is natural, btw we didn’t make the water either. The ocean can handle oil but the problem is the concentration and the fact that it is making landfall. And the fact that they haven’t plugged the hole. You don’t have to disagree with everything someone says just because you don’t like their politics. No one is wrong ALL the time, just like no one is right ALL the time. It is a great picture to match up with a statement taken out of context. How is it different than most captions on here?
For one thing, use some of those oil booms that have been sitting around awaiting his approval to be used. He also could have allowed some of the many foreign vessels offering their help to clean up the spill into the Gulf. For some reason he waited almost two months(!) to allow them in. How many barrels of oil is that? How many dead oil-covered animals?
You talk as if running an entire country is easy. Why dont you try taking all the responsibilities he has and see if you can do any better. The gulf oil spill isnt the only disaster he has to deal with and making him sound like an insensitive monster isnt going to do anything. I agree that the oil spill is tragic, you would have to be heartless not to cry at the sight of an oil covered pelican. But The president is not a magic man that can make anything happen instantly.
Use the booms. Suspend nonsensical EPA guidelines that keep foreign aid from coming in just because they only get 90% of the oil in one go, versus 99.9%. Tell the Coast Guard to go fly a kite about the damn fire extinguishers. Give his ICS team an actual mission other than “putter around and look busy.” Instruct local Incident Commands to play nice with Louisiana Fire and Rescue organizations, as opposed to threatening to seize their engines when they try to control related HazMat calls. Return Bobby Jindal’s phone calls. Let Jindal use the National Guard. Tell the EPA, BP, FEMA and USCG to stop pissing in Jindal’s coffee.
Overall, though? Pretend to care. He don’t care about this, and he didn’t care about Nashville. At least, that’s how he comes across. Maybe he does care and just sucks at showing it.
cbast1, the oil drilling rules were changed by Bush, you partisan moron. Blaming Obama for this mess is just the latest attempt br racist old fat people like you to lump anything they can at Obama, hoping the scary half-black, half-white man goes away, you racist idiot.
Where did cbast1 even come close to mentioning race? I rather think you’re the one with some race issues.
Doesn’t matter! He questioned The One! He must be a RAAAAAAAAAAAAACIST!!!!!!!!!
Yes, because sending out the Navy and Coast Guard is clearly doing nothing. What’s he supposed to do, swim down there and plug it himself? I’m sick of conservatives trying to blame this on him.
May we presume that you also defended the previous president during the Katrina aftermath? That would be consistent, of course.
No, I didn’t, because that effort was badly managed, for several reasons. Also, your comparison isn’t entirely valid. Response to a natural disaster, such as a hurricane, doesn’t have the same technical challenges as response to an oil spill. Rather than doing things that the National Guard and such have been trained for and performed numerous times, i.e. search and rescue, maintaining civil authority, distributing supplies, this involves oil cleanup, for which a much smaller federal force is trained, requiring cooperation with private industry. When said private industry is uncooperative or incompetent, the government cannot really be blamed.
I think the situations are more similar. Recall that the Katrina fiasco wasn’t just hurricane response – that’s bad enough, of course. At the heart of the misery was an unexpected levee burst flooding a significant portion of a city already the target of a direct hurricane hit. I submit that there was as little “training” for that unique situation as there was for this one (this one being unique because of a failed backup system at 5000 feet, essentially).
Furthermore, if I’m not mistaken (and I may well be, honestly), N.O. mayor Ray Nagan was “uncooperative or incompetent” when it came to cooperating with the feds during Katrina. Similar to the disconnect in the current situation, no?
Yes, the levee that burst, perhaps because the budget for the New Orleans District of the Army Corps of Engineers had been slashed in the previous few years. But still, all of that obscures one critical difference: a hurricane can neither be prevented nor avoided. This spill could have been.
I won’t disagree that the spill could be avoided, but I think we would disagree on both the root cause of the spill and the best way to avoid them in the future. Still, the similarity in the “freakness” of the two events stands.
FWIW, I never expected this president to plug the leak himself, but the lack of early involvement (despite the ubiquitous claims of being there “since day one”) reminisces the Bush administration’s perceived slowness in responding to Katrina.
Oh please. Bumbles deserves as much blame as Wobbles did, if only because they’re the boss of the DHS Head, who runs FEMA, which is the organization Congress decided was SO MUCH MORE INTELLIGENT AND AWESOME than us lowly plebes who, uh…actually have good frakking ideas for cleaning this sh*t up.
Wanna know why I’m hatin’ on Bumble more than Wobbles? Cuz Bumbles promised there would be f*cking change, and while I didn’t vote for the prick, I’m gonna hold him to his f*cking words. Where’s the got damm change? Where’s the ‘caring’ government that doesn’t tell Louisiana volunteer firefighters to go home or go to jail when they try to clean up the HazMats? Where’s the COMPETENCE out of the executive branch that I was so loftily promised?
All politicians promise change. When was the last time you heard a politician say “You think this sucks? Vote for me to get more of the same!” So make sure to hold the mirror up to all your precious Republicans too because they are no better than any given Democrat. Republicans need to get over themselves. They can’t run the country any better than Democrats can.
Don’t misunderstand; I’m stone pissed at all but 1 or 2 of the R’s just as mm. But when one party owns 2/3 of the government, that party eats all the blame. Bush ate it with Katrina, Obama’s eating it with
The blame — the real, honest-to-goodness blame — lies with the USCG for wasting our time with pointless safety inspections, BP for being run by the worst kind of people, and FEMA and the people it’s set up as ICS commanders who are just letting BP do whatever it wants.
But I do recognize the validity of your point, and fervently wish Jindal would just man up already and tell the Feds to suck it.
Cyanide gas is as just as natural as oxygen.
Ricin is just as natural as water.
Thorium is just as natural as cotton.
I suggest people start breathing cyanide, drinking ricin and wearing thorium, their bodies will deal with it, it’s just natural substances.
I like you Jake!!!
Ditto Marcia’s comment, Jake!
Jake, oil built the free world to what it is today. Unless you drive around in a car powered by a low IQ, I’d suggest you go back to the “thinking-board.”
Context, you lack it.
Next time you make a comment, please make it relevant to the thread. Thank you.
I concure!
Your sarcasm is misplaced.
Apple seeds contain cyanogenic acids, which are from the cyanide family. If you eat enough apple seeds you can die.
To follow your train of thought, you would ban apples?
I duuno; if anyone is actually stupid enough to take that advice, I’ll just call “Darwin”.
Where did Jake say he would ban oil? It looked to me like he was pointing out that just because something is natural, that doesn’t mean it’s good to put it in your body, or, by extension, the ocean. Your comment about apples just confirmed his point.
Move along you looky loos, nothing supernatural to see here.
You win the internets.
Based on that quote, I think Limbaugh has traded in his illegal Rx drugs for some good ol’ hardcore BP oil.
If this disaster were in Brazil (my country), USA would have invaded us, bombed us, killed our people, all in the name of “salvation” of mother Nature.
But this is happening in USA, and nobody does anything whatsoever, they just sit and watch every living creature die and the oil spread all over.
We, “strangers”, we earthlings, we who live in other countries, are apalled. This is absolutely unnacceptable, and however, USA will get away with it.
Very True!
Grouel, I’m not always proud of my country’s political decisions, like invading other countries. I’m also not proud and, sadly, not surprised to learn of the corruption in the regulatory department that was supposed to oversee safe drilling practices. We definitely have a lot to clean up, not just the oil. (Then again, we aren’t the only country that’s ever had to deal with corruption.)
However, I know on many occasions my country has sent huge sums of aid money to countries that have had disasters. We also send medicine, emergency shelters, food, and volunteers, including doctors. That doesn’t excuse our arrogance, but it does let us off the hook for “not doing anything.” On the other hand, and nothing personal, but are there any Brazilians who’ve come here to volunteer for the oil clean-up efforts? If so, great – thank you! If not… best not to cast stones.
As for our own citizens, many people here ARE doing A LOT to try to deal with the effects of this spill. There are many people spending all day every day cleaning the beaches as best they can, trying to corral or burn oil that’s still at sea, along with aiding wildlife. They clean the animals, then meither rehabilitate them if need be or release them, in cases where that’s possible. Should anyone *have* to be doing this? Hell no, because the oil shouldn’t be there. But since it is, volunteers *are* doing what they can.
There are also many lower level industry workers trying their best to fix the leak and its effects. There have been others who tried for some time to get their employer to address safety problems, only to suffer being fired, paycuts, demotions, and unwanted transfers. Personally, I view the unending stream of idiotic comments and utterly uncaring attitudes as coming from high level BP employees, from BP PR people, and from BP lawyers. See, it’s very likely that none of those people will lose jobs or income over this, so they can pretty much say or do whatever they want. What amazes me is that, as with the Wall Street thieves who ruined *everyone’s* economy, no one has bothered to “remove” these people from the equation… permanently, if you get my drift. I’m not advocating it, just saying I’m surprised it hasn’t happened. Yet.
And guess what, Grouel? Both the CEO and the Chairman of the Board for BP – the ones saying stupid, insensitive, evasive things and trying to put roadblocks in the way of those trying to help – are NOT Americans. The first is British – as in BRITISH Petroleum – and I believe the other is Danish. “My” people are not innocent in this, but they certainly had help screwing up so many other people’s lives and harming the environment. So, unless you want to be a part of the solution, I request that you cease being part of the problem by blaming people for things they aren’t even doing.
I forgot to mention that the same high level BP employees who I blame for this mess are still stalling, after at least a month, about giving money to the state of Alabama to pay for mental health experts to continue helping those who’ve lost not just their jobs, but a way of life that’s been around for a long, long, time. It’s bad enough that mental health is *still* woefully underfunded in the U.S. but Alabama has now twice requested $10 million to hire more experts because the ones that state and federal funds have already paid for cannot meet the rising demand caused by the oil spill. BP says they’re “considering” it. In the meantime, they ARE spending $50 million on, what else… PR. How stupid do you have to be to miss the fact that $10 million of aid will do more for your public image than $50 million in TV and internet ads ever will???
This leak will not be plugged until December – or later.
Hopefully there will have been a few lynchings in BP headquarters.
More likely the lynchings will occur to mid-level people who tried to tell the higher ups there were problems. The higher ups just did not want to hear it. Oh, and it’ll be the higher ups doing the lynchings, not the public.
It hasn’t been called “British” Petroleum, except by ill educated Republicans, since 2001. Also, it’s 39% american owned, 40% British owned. Sleep tight.
1) So what?
2) Yes, it’s the Republicans, they’re so stupid, they’re ruining the earth and murdering cute little bunnies, blah blah blah, doesn’t R-bashing ever get old? Can’t you even find ONE good thing to say about the other half of this country, instead of turning them into convenient strawmen to blame for…whatever’s trendy?
3) Lord in Heaven, who cares about what it’s called currently, or who owns what stocks? The disaster cleanup falls under FEMA and BP; that’s Feds + private, which you’ve already established is 61% foreign-owned. Sleep tight yourself, sir. :p
4) Bloody ray of sunshine.
5) Seriously? You’re gonna take a slap at an entire subset of the population based on a single mannerism exercised by a few who, more’n likely, are being ironic? Or, you know…kinda-sorta accurate, since it’s still the same company, just trying to rebrand itself as something cuter, cuddlier and more ‘eco-friendly’?
RE: 2) – Personally, I’m tired of BOTH sets of extremists on BOTH sides of the aisle bashing each other and those of their own party who don’t toe the party line. It seems there is very little if any room left in this country for trying to stay level-headed and work together despite our differences, even though God knows there will *always* be differences.
Just this week, now primary-defeated Republican Senator Bob Bennett of Utah had this to say, “The concern I have is that ideology and a demand for absolute party purity endangers our ability to govern once we get into office.” He was saying it about *his own party.* He also had this to say: “As I look out at the political landscape now, I find plenty of slogans on the Republican side, but not very many ideas,” as well as this: “Indeed, if you raise specific ideas and solutions… you are attacked with the same vigor as we’ve seen in American politics all the way back to slavery and polygamy; you are attacked as being a wimp, insufficiently pure, and unreliable.”
“Absolute party purity” and “insufficiently pure”? Hmm… where have we heard those terms before… Oh, that’s right I can’t mention where or I’ll likely be shouted down, since such comparisons are too often longer considered inaccurate despite whatever circumstances are involved. Another example of the waning ability of many Americans to resist the temptation to jump to false conclusions at warp speed.
Sen. Bennett also had this to say: “The pendulum will swing, and we will take control of the House – I think that’s going to happen… At which point, it’s ‘thank you for the slogans’ and ‘thank you for the election.’ But in the immortal words of Robert Redford in the movie The Candidate, ‘What do we do now?’”
Amen and pass the ammo to this *liberal* and very patriotic American. There’s a strong chance I would have a hard time agreeing with Sen. Bennett on many issues. But I would still TRY – and KEEP trying – because without at least trying we all have bupkiss to look forward to. Screw the “apocalypse,” I’d like to hang around for a while.
quotes courtesy of this article:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/06/30/bennett-republicans-need-to-present-more-ideas/?fbid=u3nGVcqAI9A#more-111339
Y’know, Ember, as a member of the vast right-wing conspiracy, I’d like to say thank you for reminding me that not all of my countrymen are completely without decency. it’s been a pleasure reading your comments on this thread, even the ones where I was thinking, “What? No! That’s…NO! Hippie!,” whereupon I began frothing at the mouth.
That said, I was actually part of the online effort (I gave money :p) to help oust Bennett. It had little to do with purity, and more to do with the fact that the man simply did not represent us (okay, so maybe it was purity, but the man was considered a complete Washington insider and one of the most corrupt jacka**es on our side of the fence, soooo…axe-time). He was NOT ousted by the establishment Republican party; he was ousted by those of us on the Right who hate the establishment R’s more than y’all on the left do. I have no idea what he means by an ‘absence of ideas;’ we have them, we talk about them regularly, and it’s extremely annoying listening to a guy who supposedly represents We The People chew sour grapes at people he never respected enough to listen to in the first place.
…but I digress…really, really digress…
As far as party unity…hell, I’m a Red PUMA libertarian, a social liberal and radical open borders activist. Not a single thing you said in there I disagree with. As such, cheers.
PS: I’m deep in the arms of Vicodin, as such I ramble and do not proof-read. But I’d like your style even without the happy juice.
As a middle-to-far-left liberal, I’ve been trying to get into the heads of the right wingers. I’m not entirely sure where they’re at or what direction they’re looking to go. Are the tea partiers the direction of the Republican party? Are they still fringe? Will old school Republicans make a comeback? Is the party going to split? I’ve honestly been curious about this stuff lately. I’ve even tried listening to the right wing talk show hosts. I can only take a little bit at a time. LOL
“As a middle-to-far-left liberal, I’ve been trying to get into the heads of the right wingers.”
Good luck with that. We’re about as fractured as y’all on the left are, we’re just better at hiding it.
“Are the tea partiers the direction of the Republican party? Are they still fringe? Will old school Republicans make a comeback? Is the party going to split?”
Define a few things, then I can answer: what do you think the Tea Party is (what have you heard, what do you believe)? What would you call ‘old school Republicans’ (be as vicious in your definition as you like, I’ll prolly agree with a fair chunk of it)?
As far as splitting, unlikely. We are absolutely committed to defeating what we consider to be a destructive cancer infesting both of our parties — R and D alike. The party may die and be reborn as something else, as per the Civil War era, or it may undergo a less violent rebirth. But a true split is doubtful. You will, however, see it tack further right.
Actually, that’s another question: What do you consider ‘Right’ to be? Honest answer, use all the Hitler comparisons you want.
“I can only take a little bit at a time.”
Doing better than me; I can’t spend more than five seconds listening to Maureen Dowd or any of the other talking heads on the Left before I become froth-spittingly angry.
Not so good lately. The divide is becoming more and more apparent.
The Tea Party
WTF? Stupid computer. Okay, let me work on my reply.
Same thing happened to me; we go into moderation, or what?
Anyway, the Tea Party is far less an R or conservative thing than you may have heard. 24% Tea Partiers polled self-identify as D’s. And Lord have mercy, it’s so incredibly only the tip of the iceberg.
Correction: I couldn’t find the poll that said 24, but I did find one that said 13%, soooooo…that’s a huge difference, but still worth noting.
The Tea Party is about slashing taxes, which would of course require slashing federal programs which I disagree with. It’s also about hardcore constitutionality, which I think is silly. I do believe in cutting waste in the federal government, but I don’t agree with slashing programs. Tea partiers also think Obama is headed towards socialism, which is nonsense. As for Tea Partiers who call themselves Democrats, they must be the blue dogs. Liberal Democrats would never support the Tea Party unless they really hate themselves since the Tea Party hates liberal Democrats. I’m not a fan of the Tea Party.
What do I consider “right” to be? Well, I’m pretty far to the left, although not as far as some. Obama is to the right of me. We’ll start there. Before you start screaming socialist or communist, I’ll say I like both in theory, but don’t see either as technically practical in America. Both are always wrecked by the greedy or power hungry, although capitalism is contaminated by the same.
I find the current wave of social conservatism disgusting. I read through some of the Texas GOP platform and was HORRIFIED. HORR-IF-IED.
I can at least understand fiscal conservatism even though I disagree with it.
I’ve tried listening to Beck, Hannity, and some loon named Michael Savage. Savage is the craziest and most evil of them all. I despise that man. I actually heard a conservative talk show host (I think he was local) say he thinks Obama is trying to do what he thinks is right even though he fervently disagrees. Most right wing hosts think Obama and all lefties are actively trying to destroy America, which is insane.
3rd f*cking time trying to respond, might be lost in moderation, so you may get, like…ten responses later today.
Wow, Obama’s to the right of you…didn’t think that was possible. Weird, but that’s what makes America awesome.
Social cons = big gov’t cons. They’re gonna die out. Culture war’s over, you won.
Ignore Savage. He doesn’t speak for the movement, and I find him repugnant. Good example of a social con.
I believe Obama is trying to do what he thinks is right. I also believe he wants to bring this country to financial ruin, as outlined by Cloward and Piven, so he/they/the Socialist-Democrats can rebuild it however they want. Do I have proof? Only the actual words of Cloward and Piven, and the knowledge that he rolls with them.
Far as talk-radio, try the Ed Morrisey show, and give Greta van Susteren a viewing. Fox Business has some good folks on it; the Bulls and Bears on Sunday mornings is pretty cool too, if heavy on technicalities.
Here’s the thing, though. The right is preaching small government now, but they’ll never do it. That would interfere with their power. Reducing the size of government and transferring power to the states goes against everything politicians believe no matter what they’re preaching. So if some of these small government types get into office, be prepared for them to change their tune. Once they get power, they’re not gonna give it back.
And those of us who are actually liberal recognize Obama as a little left of center. Those who think he’s a hardcore socialist or communist are completely wrong. He has a few liberal tendencies. What I’m hearing is that the right has gone so far to the right that even middle-of-the-road Democrats are hardcore liberals now. That’s kinda scary.
“but they’ll never do it” If you’re right, this country is f*cked. The D’s won’t do it either. However, if someone outside the ol’ boys club wins the R nomination in ’12, then there’s an extremely good chance we’re back on the right track. Patience will be required, however; it took decades to get into the mess we’re in now, it’ll take decades to unfrak everything.
“Once they get power, they’re not gonna give it back.” Agreed, and you just outlined an extremely strong case for small government. What’s your stance on Congressional term limits?
And, again, I’d really disagree about Big O. I think he’s a stealth socialist; everything he’s doing he’s doing through proxies, czars, and executive orders that are rarely reported on, and never in-depth. But, again, I’m gonna ask: what do you define the ‘right’ as, and what do you define ‘socialism’ as?
“What I’m hearing is that the right has gone so far to the right that even middle-of-the-road Democrats are hardcore liberals now. That’s kinda scary.”
Eeeeeeeh…well, yeah, at least fiscally. The R base has ALWAYS been further right than the actual party itself; that’s one of the main reasons we’re so damn pissed. BUT IT DEPENDS on whether you’re talking fiscal or social; socially, again, we’re sliding center. And, in fairness, brother, I’ve been hearing even worse out of the Left; PUMAs and Blue Dogs gearing up for a massive bare-knuckle fight after the election this November.
Actually, it’s probably fair to say that both parties are in for a pretty severe blood-letting. Guess we’re ‘fortunate’ enough to live in interesting times. :p
I agree that both sides need a good shaking up. As hard as it is to find, we need people who are actually trying to do their job, not just tell us what we want to hear and work on their reelection. And I am in favor of congressional term limits. There’s more incentive to get the job done if you actually have a limited time to do it. Some congressmen and women don’t even try since they think they’ve got the seat for life. And some of them really have it for life.
There’s still quite a bit of the social conservatives out there. Have you read the Texas GOP platform? It’s horrid. It’s like a gory Stephen King novel, only scarier and it’s real. I’m glad I don’t live there.
The only way to see how the parties are doing is to see what happens in November, although that’s not even a true litmus test as the party in power always loses seats in the midterm elections.
Oh, to answer your question, I define the right as: people who push fiscal responsibility, are against social programs, would rather money be spent on the military instead of education, pro-gun, pro-life yet pro-death penalty, claim to be small government despite never actually doing it, think cutting taxes for the wealthy actually helps someone besides the wealthy, and think gay people don’t have rights. So how’d I do?
Socialism is where companies have public ownership not private ownership. Sometimes it’s the government providing many services with the help of higher taxes. Outside of GM, what companies has the government owned? And they’re not keeping GM. And we already have some socialist-type programs like public schools.
Well, that’s an interesting interpretation, Nic, since I’m a well-educated (Masters degree), *liberal* – Assumption FAIL.
No, we wouldn’t have invaded. You’ve been deforesting (destroying?) the Amazon for years and we haven’t bothered you.
Thank you, TomWS. Well said.
A lot of the time the deforestation of the Amazon is by foreign companies. Many from the US. And many for trade to the US. The logging isn’t just for Brazil’s profit.
The corporations’ home countries are irrelevant. The government and people of Brazil (Grouel included) allow the deforestation to happen, and it’s just the sort of man-made ecological disaster that Grouel claims would spur invasion – which hasn’t even been considered… outside of environmentalist groups, anyway.
Thanks for reminding me of the obvious, Zip Zop. I got caught up in TomWS’ deforestation idea w/o remembering some of the dynamics behind it. From what I’ve read, both scenarios do happen in many places around the world – local people do cause a percentage of it (to clear farm land, obtain fuel, and to sell timber). But so do interests in foreign countries, both governmental and corporate.
And TomWS – the average people don’t always have the means to fight out-sized corporate entities, especially if their own governments are determined to get into bed with said corps. Even here, where free speech is protected, organized protests are allowed, and darn near everyone has either a gun, a lawyer, or both, it can be hard to crack the corporate force field to change anything.
Yet, Brazil is a sovereign nation – not occupied by a foreign power, to my knowledge. What’s happening to the Amazon within their borders is happening with their knowledge and consent. The corporate involvement, specifically their “home” countries, are irrelevant to the original claim that the US would invade based upon environmental destruction.
I won’t chase this rabbit, but I do want to point out that people do have the means to fight – either out-sized corporate entities or out-of-control governments. The will is what’s often lacking. I assume you’re an American, so this should be especially clear when remembering why many of us are getting a 3-day weekend here in the States.
He’s right in one way, but stupid in another. That’s why I hate Rush, every time he gets one thing right he gets two things wrong.
Compared to some people thats a pretty good record!
Oil natural?! Preposterous.
Uh… Can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic, but I’m sure there are those out there who do believe oil is not natural. So… this is for them… *Yes* oil IS natural. It’s derivatives, like gasoline and kerosene are not naturally occurring. Oil is created from long dead organic matter that’s been under tremendous pressure for a long time. The oil under the sea is mostly from all the tons of dead plankton and other lifeforms that have sunk to the ocean floor over millions/billions of years. But oil only develops when new rock forms over the organic deposits. That’s why we have to drill to get it out (in huge quantities, that is; natural seeps are much lower in volume). So in it’s “natural” state most of it is kept away from the part of the environment we live in, along with plant life and other “higher” life forms (as opposed to some micro-organisms that can live farther down or farther up than we do).
This caption is a fail. Once again someone takes a section of what Rush says and posts it without the rest of the story.
Why don’t we do the real fail… like when President Obama wouldn’t accept help to clean up the oil. Or last weekend when President Obama said, “we can’t deploy oil skimmers because they might be needed elsewhere”.
Oh really… where?
hahaha look at the little fox news watcher trying to be all growed up!
So cute
Oh look, a troll trying to be patronizing…
No, peepers is funny. Quite funny. His single line of argument is to bring Fox into the conversation, mock others for not using logic, and not get anywhere close to using it himself. I say let him roll. He embarrasses those he wants to defend.
Why are you here?? Shouldn’t you be writing your apology to BP??
You forgot to mention Fox news. Better luck next time. However, you did remember to not include anything substantive, so congrats!
Oh snap!!!!
Tiresome and droll, troll.
Pimples are natural. Does that mean they should be on someone’s face and they shouldn’t do anything about it? I think not.
Rush Limbaugh, you are a tool. Please go away now.
>_< Even my ten year old niece knows better than that.
Who lives in a pineapple under the sea?!
SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS!!
Who died in an oil spill ‘cuz of BP?!
SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS!!
lol A+
A Winner Is You XD
Actually, he’s right. In 1979 there was a massive oil spill in Mexico, worse than this one, and guess what? It got cleaned up, nature took care of the rest, and the coasts that were hit are now back to normal. Oil is FROM THE EARTH, and given time the earth itself does a better job than we ever could at taking care of itself. Learn your basic science and your facts, idiot.
Great, when I have grand kids in 30-40 years I’ll be sure to tell them the beaches will be clean by the time they have grand kids. Nature can break up the oil, but not as quickly as humans can get at it and if we just leave it for mother nature to handle it than what will happen to the gulf fishing industry? Marine animals will die out wherever the oil touches and all coastal cities and beaches will be left to rot and waste in their oil drenched hell for years and years to come.
The point is, yes nature can clean up itself, but we do not have the time that it would take, and someone saying that the ocean will take care of it on it’s own is an idiot not thinking of the consequences that would occur if not for us humans there to clean up our mess.
Actually, there are several difference between that spill and this one. The Ixtoc well was further away from shore, and that plus slower currents further into the Gulf (closer to Texas) allowed two months to pass before the oil started coming ashore, giving plenty of time to prepare. Also, the initial flow rate of the Ixtoc spill was 30,000 barrels per day, reduced to 20,000 and then 10,000 within a month of the initial spill. Estimates of the Deepwater Horizon flowrate are difficult to determine, mainly because BP has consistently lowballed their assessment, but are now believed to be something in the area or 35,000-60,000 barrels per day. If you are going to call somebody an idiot for not knowing the basic science and facts, perhaps you should first learn them yourself.
Lava is from the earth, but I wouldn’t want that in my back yard either, moron. As for the oil, it may be naturally occurring, but humans are the ones who made it leak in huge quantities all over the Gulf of Mexico. What is going on is not a natural occurrence.
Nature cleans up natural disasters, man should clean up man-made disasters
I wonder what Rush would say to those poor sea creatures getting smothered by the oil, “It’s natural, deal with it.”? My gosh. Obviously, if it was SUPPOSED to be there, animals wouldn’t be dying every day because of this oil spill. Idiot.
It’s things like this that make my wonder why Limbaugh is still alive.
So anyone you don’t agree with should be put to death?
… that’s a bit “nazi-ish” don’t you think?
I interpreted it more as him saying “How has he managed to survive so long without doing something stupid that kills him?”
Well, tell that to the people in the government who won’t let gulf water into treatment plants because it still has 1% oil in it.
Ignorant savages swallowing whatever you’re told by the media. Tell your amazing Obama why it took him so damn long to get down there. Ask the feds why they’ve put so much red tape over dozens of efforts to clean it up because they have to please the unions. Ask your extremist environmentalist friends why they won’t let oil companies. Learn truth, and get your heads out of your sphincters. America is in the state it’s in because of ignorant twerps like many who flood this board. Limbaugh is just telling the truth, and he’s been proven right so many times before it’s hilarious you liberal dinosaurs haven’t been voted out of power.
Have you ever read your own posts? You sound about as bad as the ones who are hating on Limbaugh. I guess it’s all the same, on either side, isn’t it? ijut…
Uh… This, yeah. It’s like hardcore atheists vs. fundamental Christians…. I don’t think they realize insulting people and trying to make them feel small doesn’t change their opinions.
So, to recap, Republicans like Limbaugh are perfect and noble and are always correct, while liberals are awful, disgusting monsters who want to destroy everything good? That’s how I read it. You suck, jackass.
I thought you people were against governmental intervention in private enterprise???
excuse me but Rush said that very sarcastically. take a look at the facts and youll see that he was putting into words the way that the obama administration has been treating this situation. did any of you even notice the fact that it took obama TWO MONTHS of playing GOLF to even acknowledge the problem? not only that but he continues to refuse aid from other countries and even other organizations in the States.
Howzabout a citation for that quote, ifyernottoobusy.
I approve of Spongebob for a change. They should use him to clean up the oil.
Rush is an entertainer. His job is to get people riled up and he gets paid big money to do it. That being said, IMO, his type of entertainment is lower than fart jokes.
You gotta admit the people who fall for what he says are pretty damn funny!
The fact that some people can slam performers like Justin Beiber and feel sorry for Spongebob at the same time is just mind-boggling. It’s a shame that so many sea creatures suffer from oil spills, yet that annoying little yellow retard gets to live.
I totally don’t get that one.
But it doesn’t mean he’s all bad. He totally needs to explain this comment, but people need to quit slamming him just for being on the right.
Who lives in a pineapple under the sea, Spongebob Squarepants, who died in an oil spill cause of BP…
Ya know, the uneducated should keep their flinkin’ mouth shut about things they know nothing about.
the caption/quote is correct. and this spill/leak will be forgotten before the NEXT twilight film…
I couldn’t agree with you more; Rush Limbaugh really should shut his cakehole.
God put us on this earth because he wanted something to watch over. Too bad we just HAD to discover that oil can power cars and cars can get our lazy butts from point A to point B without us having to walk. I walked like 10 miles this past week and im still alive and well. In my opinion, we need to reduce our oil usage. I know everyone says that, but think about it: cars have contributed to some major issues here in the US. 1 being obiesity. if you’re going somewhere thats only a couple miles away, walk or ride a bike or SOMETHING other than driving. Don’t point you’re fingers at fast-food resturaunts for childhood and adult obiesity, though in my opinion they should get some of the blame. I know I’m getting off topic but blame the mothers who let their children have McDonald’s twice a week for a portion of childhood obiesity. Also blame cars, because most people, not just in the US but in other countries too, HATE excercise. Don’t get me wrong, I’m no marathon runner, but my church is maybe a 3/4 of a mile from my house, and if I had it my way I would walk on Sundays with nice weather. Cars and auto-makers are also to blame for the oil spill, I think. If auto-makers would constantly work at finding new ways to make cars more fuel-efficient, not just more MPG but usuing a different fuel or giving off less harmful emmissions, this might not have happened so soon. If BP didnt have to drill for as much oil, this explosion or whatever you like to call it could have been postponed till we had the technology and the smarts to deal with it faster and more efficiently. The people of this world need to stop pointing fingers at each other, or even just one person. All the peoples of this world, the tribes, the nations, the groups, whatever you call it, are just many parts of this world. Earth is like a machine: if something’s wrong in one part of the world, we are ALL affected by it, no matter how many miles are between you and the problematic area. We need to think like one giant human being and try something, even if it sounds COMPLETELY stupid. We need to trust in God or whomever you may believe in, because He, She, or They can and will perform miracles. This WILL be resolved somehow, but we can’t just sit back and let the ocean do what it does to seepage. The amount of daily seepage is miniscule compared to the amount of oil that rushes into the Gulf everyday and has for months on end. I did a labrynth a few days ago for the second time in my life, but this one was on hot sand (ow!). When I stepped onto the cool grass, I had the thought that God has His own way of fixing things. Grass and weeds were His solution to my problem. I have faith that He will send a messenger or dream or angel or something to someone who can make a difference, meaning anybody, telling us what we must do to clean up this oil. Mothers are always telling us to pick up after ourselves, and that’s EXACTLY what we need to do now, just on a larger scale.
Do you have a tl;dr version of this?
Or perhaps organize it into paragraphs?
I don’t think that’s how it works.
It amazes me that someone quoting a political pundit that has absolutely no power to make any difference whatsoever in this situation generates this much of a reaction. Rush didn’t cause the rig to go, nor is he able to clean it up. Who cares what he says about this? Animals are dying on the sea coast while Obama and the rest of the Federal government sits on their behinds and do nothing. The Governor of Louisiana tried to do something about it, and the Federal Government stopped the state from working to clean up the mess. BP has botched one attempt after another to cap the well. Bill Clinton actually had a good idea, and that’s to just blow the thing up and collapse the well. They should have done that weeks ago. Ask the Russians how they would have fixed this. They’d have had it stopped in a week, I’m sad to say, but the wonderful US government is refusing ANY foreign help. In the 1960′s, humans flew to the MOON and back, yet with all this advanced 21st century technology nobody can stop a freaking oil leak? You can’t tell me there’s no solution to this.
It just galls me that people would rather attack a useless political pundit than jump on those who have power to effect, pardon the use of the word, change over the situation. Politics and the crowd of useful idiots triumphs over any kind of logical thinking. Don’t you see how you’re all being played?
Yes, we did fly to the moon and back. And, as a result, disease, hunger, racism and illiteracy have been completely wiped out. Related, I’d gladly contribute $10,000 to send Rush Limbaugh to the moon. Perhaps Gil Scott-Heron could add a few new lines to “Whitey on the Moon”.
OK WHO LET THEIR TEABAGGER GRANDPARENTS USE THE COMPUTER???//
Hey jerk, the older generations aren’t the only ones who see what’s really going on in our country. I’m 18 years old and i see it all pretty clearly, so pull your head out of your sphincter and take a look around you. And don’t get me wrong, I couldn’t care less what you believe, so long as you are able to defend yourself, and the only people who seem to be able to do that are those of us on the right. Those of you on the left just try and say the same thing over and over at higher volumes.
I think you have that backwards. Those on the right are the ones with the blowhard loony pundits clogging up talk radio and the big tea party protests.
Only cuz no one wanted to listen to Janeane Garofolo (sp?) be nasty to anyone she disagrees with.
The left have a couple people on MSNBC, but Olbermann has lost his damn mind, and I’ve never been able to get into the Rachel Maddow Show. I don’t like pundits telling me what to think.
You’re only 18. Soon you’ll realize both sides are full of it.
Believe me, I am well aware of that fact. Both parties are corrupt beyond reason, as sad as that may be. And don’t try and put me down because I’m only 18. For my young age, I know more about politics and whats going on in our country than most people two or three times my age do. You don’t have to be old to be aware.
At that age it’s more regurgitating what you get from your parents. That’s not always the case, but very often it’s learned behavior.
Which I have seen happen to many of my friends. But while my views may be along the same lines as those of my parents, I’m not the sort to blindly spew what I’m told. I question everything and am only satisfied when the answers make sense. Because of that, my views are entirly my own.
But again, I will admit you have a valid point, but in my case, it isn’t true.
Fair enough. I was somewhat politically active during my late teen years (into my high school’s Young Democrats club and stuff), and my political views did mirror my parents’ as well. But I went through a stage at one point where I was pretty conservative. I even voted for Bush in 2000. It was a passing phase. I’m pretty hardcore liberal now. LOL
To be honest, I can understand why you would turn the other way after Bush…The whole system needs to change, and I agree with some of your other comments. Term limits need to happen and we need to get rid of the career politicians and put people who have real jobs in the positions of power. The only thing most of the idiots up there care about is getting re-elected.
Getting re-elected and pocketing lobby money. Don’t forget the lobby money. If a lobby wants to influence political votes, they should do it with the righteousness of their cause, not by buying votes. I find it a massive conflict of interest that such things are allowed to happen in government.
Well, if you think Obama playing golf for the first few weeks of the spill is good management, I don’t know what to say.
Again, Rando, look at the facts. Last I heard, 75% of the sound bytes were still pro-Obama. That has most likely changed with the events of the past several months, but I can’t say that i’m too surprised that people are finally seeing what Obama’s agenda really is. And heve you ever been to one of the tea parties? I have and the people there are the nicest, calmest people you could ever imagine. They come to see that they are not alone and to show those in our government that things are going to change. So again I implore you, look at the facts before you start throwing around false accusations, Rando. At the most you’ll see what’s really going on and at the very least you might actually be able to defend your views.
Nicest, calmest people as long as you’re on their side. How do you think they’d react if I showed up with my car with Obama bumper stickers on the back? Would they still be calm & nice or would they be like the jackass at the Circle K who started berating me for having said bumper stickers? I don’t like the tea party movement. I don’t like Beck or Limbaugh or Hannity. I know what I believe, and I don’t believe in conservative platforms.
And that is a right that I will defend to the death. I think it’s fantastic that you are so sure of what you believe in, even if I think that you’re wrong (which I do). And it’s all well and good IF you can defend your views. You keep telling us what you think without anything to back it up.
And I have seen people come to Tea Parties like that and everybody was still nice and calm. The only argument I ever saw was when someone did that and immediately started yelling at the Tea Partiers. He left because he didn’t get the violently angry reaction he was looking for. Most of those on the left who do come to Tea Parties are treated very well.
Next time there is a Tea Party near you, go there for just a little bit and see what it’s like. I’m certain that you will not be attacked and the only time you will be berated is by either an idiot extremist (I will be the first to admit that they’re there and I don’t like ‘em much either) or if you start saying things without anything to back it up.
Or if you’d like, we can keep up this dialogue and I will be more than happy to oblige. Frankly, I hope you choose to do both.
“Back it up?” I’m not wasting my time doing research for the comments section of ROFLrazzi.
Then don’t say anything. If you can’t back it up, you’re just going to start arguments that you can’t win.
Who is trying to win anything? I’m just giving my opinion. This isn’t a debate. It’s not even Pundit Kitchen. I’m just throwing my 2 cents out there. If you take me seriously or not isn’t really relevant to me. And don’t tell me not say anything. I can say whatever the hell I like. You have no place telling me that.
You know what, you are right and I apologize for that. I do enjoy conversations like this, though, and they don’t happen very often. Very few people my age are willing to talk about politics like this, so I got a little ahead of myself. And trust me, this was the last place I expected to get into a political argument.
If you like this kind of thing, come over to Pundit Kitchen. It gets pretty intense over there at times, and many of the commenters are pretty up-to-date with their political knowledge.
Thank you, I think I’ll do just that
Yes, Rando, or anybody else here. You call any person who listens to Rush a loony, and all the people at the tea parties. But, do you have anything to prove that he is just making it up?
The oil might dissipate over time, I don’t know. However, that will take entirely too long and in the meantime oil is tainting the Gulf, killing animals and fish, ruining the Gulf shoreline’s economy. Is this something we’re just supposed to sit back and let happen? As for you, do you just believe it because Rush said it? Do you actually trust everything he says? I don’t listen to the left’s pundits anymore (Olbermann, Maddow), and people on the right shouldn’t listen to Beck, Hannity, and Limbaugh. Use your own brain and come up with your own conclusions. You don’t need them to tell you what to think because that’s what they’re trying to do. And they say what they say to try to get ratings. Plain and simple. Limbaugh is not an expert on anything going on the Gulf, so frankly I don’t see why I need to prove him wrong. On the other hand, I think the burden of proof is on him.
Finally, some one at least mentioned how it is killing our economy down here!
i like the part where spongebob died..
A fitting epitaph for Rush’s last surviving brain cell – as well as his ‘career’.
Can’t wait to see the video of his next visit to New Orleans.
Re “natural seepage” – best laugh I have had all day.
Uh, well IF it was just the oil, Nature could someday clean it up…but add the Toxic Chemicals they spread, and the Methane Gas that is pouring out, and there’s NO way this isn’t a bad joke on all of us! Rush is just an entertainer giving his opinion, he doesn’t know anything about Geology or the oil biz, and he only says things like this to get a rise out of people!
Actually, if I remember correctly, this quote is taken way out of context. He did say that the ocean can take care of this itself, but that we still need to do our part to clean it up and prevent further damage to the ocean and our shores.
I believe it’s a case of to little – to late… once the mess hist the Gulf Stream there’s nothing Humanly Possible left to do that will “repair” the damage done… It’s past the point of no return now. Kiss it all goodbye!
Interesting that Rush is called a patriot for making millions by promoting hate and divisiveness, but our brave men and women fighting Bushe’s Daddy Issue wars are not.
ignorance is not bliss. simply wikipedia oil spill and get your information from cited, legitimate sources and experts instead of crazy wingnuts.
oil spills can really mess up the environment, i hope we can find a very good solution to control oil spills *;`
This is about Rush and the oil spill,people-Liberals and Obama have nothing to do with this topic. Let’s just stop trying to bring Obama into every topic there is,okay? Since people say Obama is incompetent,let’s all vote for Sarah Palin to be next president. That way,we won’t have to listen to people moaning,whining,sniveling and belly-aching about Obama.